Voice of the DBA

There was a post on X recently from a founder in the EU about an engineer using Claude and ChatGPT to build a feature. I am not sure how true these posts are or if they are designed to just create engagement, but it’s still an interesting topic. The part that makes me think is that (supposedly) the engineer was fired because their “data” (code) was sent to American servers. The code was then deleted and the feature will be built without AI.

First, read some of the responses before you form an opinion. There are some funny ones in there. There are a few I think are overblown and silly, and I skim past them. Someone is always more upset than I am, and more than I think they rationally should be, so I tend to let their outrage flow by me.

There are two interesting things here. First, the debate about sending data to America. There certainly is some cause for concern here if data is being sent to a place outside of the EU where GDPR rules might apply. There possibly could be some legal issue here, though I doubt some of the responses about all code being compromised are an issue here. I don’t think code is PII, though if it were re-used or appears in AI output, perhaps investors could sue this company.

The second thing here is whether someone should be fired for doing this. There might be a policy and some training about not doing this, and in that case, perhaps the person should be fired. However, I find this kind of thing happening too often, and it’s the type of thing that has happened before AI where people used outside sources (SQL Server Central, Stack Overflow, etc.) to post code in a question and get an answer. And then often use that code without changing or testing it.

Is this rational? Some people might say yes, some no, many unsure. In the past, before AI, what would you think? To me, sometimes there have been solutions engineers have found but couldn’t use code written by someone else. There are real IP/copyright concerns here. You could rebuild the solution, rewriting the code, which in some sense is what Google did with Java APIs and successfully defended that effort. If another human or an AI gives you code, can you rewrite that code, keeping the same idea for the solution?

I think that in most cases this is acceptable. I use AI for a lot of things and I throw away a lot of AI output, but it often gets me started down a path, whether in writing, coding, or something else.

Who was more irresponsible here, the founder or the engineer? I think the former.

Steve Jones

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