A Small LLM Fail

Another test with Copilot in SSMS (v22 P3) that didn’t go so well. This one surprised me.

This is part of a series of experiments with AI systems.

Looking for Known Data with Copilot

One of the things I wanted to do recently was do some checkdb checking of a system. As a result, I was looking for the last time this was run on a database. I decided to ask Copilot.

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This made perfect sense, as this was a new restore, and I hadn’t run it. So I asked for the query.

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This doesn’t work, but I’ve gotten used to pasting in errors and letting the LLM sort this out. So I did this.

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OK better, but this still doesn’t work.

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I apply this and run it, and it works, but doesn’t return data. I wouldn’t expect this to for this database, so I try to clue in the AI.

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Seems wrong. On this page, DatabasePropertyEX, I see this:

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Not sure why this doesn’t work well. I don’t see a way to change the model, so I’m not sure what’s being used or when it was trained, but I’d expect it to know what is in DatabasePropertyEX().

Prompt AI

Prompt AI was a little better, though not at first. I asked the question:

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I got this:

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I can’t select this code (submitted a bug), but this isn’t bad. The result of my next query failed as well.

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At least I had a clue what to do. I started then with this:

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I got the “with TableResults” added. I then asked it to modify this to find the last time DBCC CHECKDB ran. I got this:

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Summary

To be fair I futzed with both of these a few times. An LLM isn’t deterministic, so I got different results, but I never got the correct result from Copilot. I did get this from PromptAI at one point, which does work.

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GenAI’s are funny beasts. You definitely need to spend some time learning how to use them.

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T-SQL Tuesday #191 Round Up

I hosted this month, late as it turns out, but we still had a few entries. Here’s a look at the blogs people published.

First as always, Rob Farley writes about the complexity of string parsing, using TVFs. He also shows some of the performance implications of complex parsing. Thanks to Rob for reminding me to get the invite out.

Louis Davidson wrote about parsing HTML, which is definitely a challenge in T-SQL given the nature of the language and how embedded different tags can be. I’ve done this a little, and I prefer using Python to do this Winking smile

Courtney Woolum writes about working with the IMDB database and needing to parse comma separated data with STRING_SPLIT and APPLY.

Lucas Kartawidjaja brings us a look at a data outside SQL Server using the Log Parser, a free CLI tool from Microsoft that works well with data outside of SQL Server.

Andy Brownsword tries out the new RegEx functions in SQL Server 2025.

Hugo Kornelis hates intelligent keys because they store different types of data in the same column. He also shows some PARSENAME and CHARINDEX tricks.

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DevOps is DevOps

DevOps can mean a lot of things, but I find in practice that this results in a team using Continuous Integration and Continuous Deployment/Delivery using automation to check and evaluate your software in some way. This should result in quicker delivery of updates and changes to customers, better agility, and higher quality of code.

That last one only comes if you use testing and try to ensure your code is well-written. It’s easy to just use DevOps to throw out more poorly written code that doesn’t perform well.

Recently, I went to a presentation on Fabric CI/CD, looking to see if I could learn something about how you might handle Fabric in a DevOps software development flow. What I came away with was the idea that DevOps is really just DevOps. In this case, Azure DevOps was being used to orchestrate the CI/CD flow, and the pipeline looked the same way as one I had set up for a relational database.

There are differences, such as the need to have multiple Fabric workspaces and a need to understand how the code is stored and managed in Git, but the idea is the same. We use a build step to verify that any code changes can be successfully compiled and that those changes can be deployed to a new location. A workspace instead of a database, which means the automation doing the work is slightly different, but the process is the same.

Testing? You want tests to verify that the code does what is expected. A lot of people skip testing with data, but I’d argue it’s as important in Power BI or SQL Server as it is in C#. We ought to include tests, not because we don’t know how to write code, but because others might maintain/extend/refactor our code, and we want their changes to pass our tests. Again, the details are different, but including a step to run tests is still there. The same idea.

Using a flow to approve and deploy changes between environments? This is no different, and having an automated process reduces the effort, time, and risk of mistakes. This is again the same, though the details are different specifics because the automation is different. Deploying a semantic model is different than pushing out a new .exe or running database changes, but the idea of an automated deployment is the same.

We, as an industry, have learned over time how to better move code through a software development life cycle. The ideas work for data-based projects as well, and we ought to be learning and adapting these to ensure we can be just as agile as application software developers.

Steve Jones

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SQL Clone at Scale with Striped Backups

I had a customer recently reach out to ask if SQL Clone would work with 20 backup files. I decided to test this.

This is part of a series of posts on SQL Clone, which is a virtualization product from Redgate Software.

The Scenario

A customer asked about SQL Clone working with a lot of backup files (striped), like 20. Our support org said this should work and handle the max number of files, which is 64 for the backup command.

I know SQL Clone works with striped backups because I wrote an article on it, but I only tested 7 files. How to test more than that?

First, get the backups. To do this, I used a GenAI to quickly get me a command. Once I had this, I ran it and got a lot of files.

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Now to get the SQL Clone image.

Image Creation

I decided to start with the GUI. This has changed since I wrote the article in that it now puts each file in a separate text box. By default you get two. I pasted in my file path and file, and then copy/pasted in the 2nd box. I continued adding them, clicking the “Add another file” at the bottom each time (see the image).

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It was tedious, but it was a quick way of testing this. I likely would have taken longer than the 3-4 minutes of copy/pasting to write a PoSh script (though I need to do that). You can see most of my files below.

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Once I had 32 of them, I clicked “Continue” and entered the name and location for my image. Then clicked “Create”.

It worked. The image shows my SQL Clone image being created successfully and a clone from this image.

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These were small files, so the restore time was quick. Each is about 3MB, so we’re not looking at much.

Summary

This shows that SQL Clone can work with 32 files. I assume it works with 64, but that will have to wait until I have time to mess around with the PoSh to make the image command creation easy.

If you are looking to save storage space for multiple copies of databases, or give each user a consistent copy in seconds, check out SQL Clone.

Video Walkthrough

See this article in video below.

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